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INSULATION INSPECTION & IMPROVEMENT

ACOUSTICAL SEALANT CHOICES
AIR LEAK MINIMIZATION
ASBESTOS IDENTIFICATION IN BUILDINGS
ATTIC VENTILATION

BASEMENT CEILING VAPOR BARRIER
BASEMENT HEAT LOSS
BUCKLED FOUNDATIONS due to INSULATION?

CATHEDRAL CEILING INSULATION
CATHEDRAL CEILING VENTILATION
CEILINGS, DROP or SUSPENDED PANEL
CRAWL SPACES

DEHUMIDIFICATION PROBLEMS
DEW POINT TABLE - CONDENSATION POINT
DUCT INSULATION, ASBESTOS PAPER

FIBERGLASS PARTICLE CONTAMINATION
Fiberboard Insulation Sheathing Mold
FIBERGLASS INSULATION MOLD
Fireproofing containing Asbestos
FRAMING DETAILS for BETTER INSULATION
FRAMING DETAILS for DOUBLE WALL HOUSES
FRAMING METAL STUD PERFORMANCE
FREEZE-PROOF A BUILDING

HEAT LOSS in BUILDINGS
HEAT LOSS PREVENTION PRIORITIES
HEAT LOSS R U & K VALUE CALCULATION
HOUSEWRAP AIR & VAPOR BARRIERS
HOUSE DOCTOR, how-to be
HUMIDITY LEVEL TARGET

ICE DAM PREVENTION
INSULATION AIR & HEAT LEAKS
INDOOR AIR QUALITY & HOUSE TIGHTNESS
INSULATION CHOICES
INSULATION FACT SHEET- DOE
INSULATION INSPECTION & IMPROVEMENT
INSULATION MOLD
INSULATION R-Values & Properties

LEED GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION
LOG HOME ENERGY EFFICIENCY

MOLD in FOAM INSULATION, RESISTANCE
MOISTURE CONTROL in BUILDINGS

NOISE / SOUND DIAGNOSIS & CURE

PASCAL CALCULATIONS

RADIANT BARRIERS
REFLECTIVE INSULATION
RIGID FOAM USE INDOORS

SHEATHING, FOIL FACED - VENTS
SLAB INSULATION, PASSIVE SOLAR
STAINS on & in BUILDINGS, CAUSES & CURES
STRAW BALE CONSTRUCTION
STUCCO WALL METHODS & INSTALLATION
STUCCO OVER FOAM INSULATION
SWEATING (CONDENSATION) on PIPES, TANKS

Thermal Expansion Cracking of Brick
THERMAL IMAGING, THERMOGRAPHY
THERMAL MASS in BUILDINGS
THERMAL TRACKING Indicates Heat Loss
TRUSS UPLIFT, ROOF

VAPOR BARRIERS & CONDENSATION in BUILDINGS
VENTILATION in BUILDINGS

WALL CONSTRUCTION BARRIER vs CAVITY
WIND WASHING INSULATION At EAVES
WINTERIZE A BUILDING

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Fiberglass insulation added in an attic  (C) Daniel Friedman Attic Insulation Quantity - Still Need More than in Walls?
     

  • Why do we need more insulation in the attic than in building walls?
    • Extra insulation is most cost-effective added in top floor ceiling
    • Comparing benefit of adding cathedral ceiling insulation to adding wall insulation?
    • How much attic or cathedral ceiling insulation should be installed?
  • Solar Age Magazine Articles on Renewable Energy, Energy Savings, Construction Practices
  • Questions & Answers about how much attic insulation is needed
  • References

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  • INSULATION IDENTIFICATION GUIDE - home
  • INSULATION INSPECTION & IMPROVEMENT - home
  • INSULATION LOCATION - WHERE TO PUT IT - home
  • AIR LEAK SEALING PROCEDURE
  • BASEMENT HEAT LOSS
  • BLOWN-IN INSULATION
  • BUCKLED FOUNDATIONS due to INSULATION?
  • CATHEDRAL CEILING INSULATION
  • CEILINGS, DROP or SUSPENDED PANEL
  • CRAWL SPACE INSULATION RETROFIT
  • FRAMING DETAILS for BETTER INSULATION
  • FREEZE-PROOF A BUILDING
  • HEAT LOSS in BUILDINGS - home
  • ICE DAM PREVENTION
  • INSULATION LOCATION - WHERE TO PUT IT - home
    • INSULATION LOCATION & QUANTITY for ATTICS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for BASEMENT FLOORS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for BASEMENT WALLS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for BRICK or BLOCK WALL CAVITY
    • INSULATION LOCATION for BRICK VENEER WALLS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for CAPES, CRAWLSPACES
    • INSULATION LOCATION for CATHEDRAL CEILINGS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for CRAWL SPACES
    • INSULATION LOCATION for GREENHOUSE or SOLARIUM
    • INSULATION LOCATION for PASSIVE SOLAR FLOOR SLAB
    • INSULATION LOCATION & EXTENT for SLABS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for SOUND CONTROL
    • INSULATION LOCATION for SUSPENDED PANELS
    • INSULATION LOCATION for SWIMMING, INDOOR
    • INSULATION on HOT WATER PIPING
    • INSULATION ON HOT WATER TANK
  • INSULATION MOLD
  • INSULATION R-Values & Properties
  • RADIANT BARRIERS
  • REFLECTIVE INSULATION
  • SLAB INSULATION, PASSIVE SOLAR
  • SOUND CONTROL in building
  • THERMAL IMAGING, THERMOGRAPHY
  • THERMAL TRACKING Heat Loss
  • VAPOR BARRIERS & CONDENSATION in BUILDINGS
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Attic insulation quantity guide: this article discusses the comparative benefits of placing more insulation in a building attic than in building walls, and the comparative benefits of adding ceiling versus wall insulation for cathedral-ceiling areas.

Accompanying text is reprinted/adapted/excerpted with permission from Solar Age Magazine - editor Steven Bliss.

Readers concerned with optimum choice and placement of insulation in buildings should see articles listed at INSULATION LOCATION - WHERE TO PUT IT and at INSULATION INSPECTION & IMPROVEMENT. Contact us to suggest text changes and additions and, if you wish, to receive online listing and credit for that contribution.

Green links show where you are. © Copyright 2013 InspectAPedia.com, All Rights Reserved. Author Daniel Friedman.

Attic Insulation: How Even Does the Building Insulating Blanket Need to Be?

Recommended insulation levels (C) Carson Dunlop Illustrated Home

The link to the original Q&A article in PDF form immediately below is followed by an expanded/updated online version of this article.

  • Q&A on Even [building] Envelope Insulation - do we still need to add more insulation in the attic of modern airtight homes? - PDF version, use your browser's back button to return to this page

The question-and-answer article below paraphrases, quotes-from, updates, and comments an original article from Solar Age Magazine and written by Steven Bliss.

Sketch (left) showing recommended building insulation levels for North America is courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.

Is it Still Necessary to Insulate the Attic More than Building Walls?

Question:

Buildings have always had more insulation in the attic than in the walls or below ground level. This I believe is due to warm air rising. With the advent of airtight construction and mechanical ventilation with heat recovery, is it still necessary to insulate the attic more than the walls?

I believe that pre-fab homes imported in Sweden have equal R-value insulation around the entire building shell. This sounds like the logical way to go. -- Philip Cyr, Sunrise Technologies, Caribou ME

Answer:

Why We Put More Insulation in Attics than Walls of Buildings?

Snow melt shows areas of missing under roof insulation (C) Daniel FriedmanThe reason for putting more insulation in the attic is twofold:

First, in older insulated homes, air near the ceiling may be as much as 10 degF. hotter than air at the floor. So the rate of heat loss was [and may still be] greater at the ceiling.

Our photo (left) show how simply observing uneven snow melt on the roof of an older home can indicate areas of uneven building insulation, air leaks, or other causes of heat loss.

The second reason is that after the first 4 to 6 inches of insulation (in 2x4 or 2x6 construction wood framed walls), it is a lot cheaper to add insulation to the ceiling (see our page top photo) than to the walls (where added framing or other tricks will be required).

So up to a point, extra insulation is most cost-effective in the ceiling.

In a well-insulated home, the first reason may no longer be valid [depending on how heat is distributed in the building] since there may be very little temperature difference from floor to ceiling.

[This is true, at least in theory. But even a "well insulated" older home where an insulation retrofit has been extensive, may have air leaks and unexpected temperature variations. See ENERGY SAVINGS RETROFIT CASE STUDY. Field measurements made during building inspections using infra-red to compare temperatures at floors, bottom of walls, center and top of walls, and ceilings, can still find surprising variations in temperatures even in some new, well-insulated homes -- DF]

The second reason, though, still holds as long as you can cheaply stuff insulatin into your attic. [Just don't block attic ventilation intake at the building eaves or you may, while adding attic insulation, also create an attic moisture problem in some buildings. See ATTIC CONDENSATION CAUSE & CURE -DF].

Should we Add Insulation to a Cathedral Ceiling?

Interior cathedral ceiling (C) Daniel FriedmanIn buildings where idoor air temperatures are found to be uniform, floor to ceiling, then cathedral ceilings are an exception to the building insulation quantity and placement logic discussed just above.

Once the space between the rafters of a cathedral ceiling has been filled with insulation [see ROOF VENTILATION SPECIFICATIONS where we warn about "hot roof" designs"] or where no more insulation can be added in a catheral ceiling without blocking its ventilation design, then the incremental cost of adding insulation to the cathedral ceiling is comparable to adding insulation to the building walls. See FRAMING DETAILS for BETTER INSULATION.

Improving the R-Value of Cathedral Ceilings

In both cases, where the total R-value of the building walls or cathedral ceiling are considered inadequate, rather than costly framing changes, we often laminate a layer of 1" or 2" high-R solid foam insulation on the ceiling and/or walls, covering the new layer with drywall. But even this approach is more trouble than first meets the eye: Electrical outlets, switches, windows, doors, trim all need to be built-out to cover the edges of the new insulating material. --DF

See CATHEDRAL CEILING INSULATION. For older homes with cathedral ceilings, more energy savings gain may be found by tracking and fixing air leaks. See Air Bypass Leaks, Thermal Tracking and see ENERGY SAVINGS RETROFIT LEAK SEALING GUIDE.

The question-and-answer article about the comparative benefits of adding attic insulation or cathedral ceiling insulation versus wall insulation in buildings, quotes-from, updates, and comments an original article from Solar Age Magazine and written by Steven Bliss.


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Technical Reviewers & References

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  • Solar Age Magazine was the official publication of the American Solar Energy Society. The contemporary solar energy magazine associated with the Society is Solar Today. "Established in 1954, the nonprofit American Solar Energy Society (ASES) is the nation's leading association of solar professionals & advocates. Our mission is to inspire an era of energy innovation and speed the transition to a sustainable energy economy. We advance education, research and policy. Leading for more than 50 years. ASES leads national efforts to increase the use of solar energy, energy efficiency and other sustainable technologies in the U.S. We publish the award-winning SOLAR TODAY magazine, organize and present the ASES National Solar Conference and lead the ASES National Solar Tour – the largest grassroots solar event in the world."
  • Steve Bliss's Building Advisor at buildingadvisor.com helps homeowners & contractors plan & complete successful building & remodeling projects: buying land, site work, building design, cost estimating, materials & components, & project management through complete construction. Email: info@buildingadvisor.com
    Steven Bliss served as editorial director and co-publisher of The Journal of Light Construction for 16 years and previously as building technology editor for Progressive Builder and Solar Age magazines. He worked in the building trades as a carpenter and design/build contractor for more than ten years and holds a masters degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Excerpts from his recent book, Best Practices Guide to Residential Construction, Wiley (November 18, 2005) ISBN-10: 0471648361, ISBN-13: 978-0471648369, appear throughout this website, with permission and courtesy of Wiley & Sons. Best Practices Guide is available from the publisher, J. Wiley & Sons, and also at Amazon.com
  • Mark Cramer Inspection Services Mark Cramer, Tampa Florida, Mr. Cramer is a past president of ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors and is a Florida home inspector and home inspection educator. Mr. Cramer serves on the ASHI Home Inspection Standards. Contact Mark Cramer at: 727-595-4211 mark@BestTampaInspector.com
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  • ASHRAE resource on dew point and wall condensation - see the ASHRAE Fundamentals Handbook, available in many libraries. The following three ASHRAE Handbooks are also available at the InspectAPedia bookstore in the third page of our Insulate-Ventilate section:
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    • 2004 ASHRAE Handbook : Heating, Ventilating, and Air-Conditioning: Systems and Equipment : Inch-Pound Edition (2004 ASHRAE Handbook : HVAC Systems and Equipment : I-P Edition) (Hardcover)
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  • Best Practices Guide to Residential Construction, by Steven Bliss. John Wiley & Sons, 2006. ISBN-10: 0471648361, ISBN-13: 978-0471648369, Hardcover: 320 pages, available from Amazon.com and also Wiley.com. See our book review of this publication.
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  • "Energy Savers: Whole-House Exhaust Ventilation Systems [copy on file as /interiors/Energy_Savers_Whole-House_Exhaust.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy energysavers.gov/your_home/insulation_airsealing/index.cfm/mytopic=11870
  • "Energy Savers: Ventilation [copy on file as /interiors/Energy_Savers_Ventilation.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy
  • "Energy Savers: Natural Ventilation [copy on file as /interiors/Energy_Savers_Natural_Ventilation.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy
  • "Energy Savers: Energy Recovery Ventilation Systems [copy on file as /interiors/Energy_Savers_Energy_Recovery_Venting.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy energysavers.gov/your_home/insulation_airsealing/index.cfm/mytopic=11900
  • "Energy Savers: Detecting Air Leaks [copy on file as /interiors/Energy_Savers_Detect_Air_Leaks.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy
  • "Energy Savers: Air Sealing [copy on file as/interiors/Energy_Savers_Air_Sealing_1.pdf ] - ", U.S. Department of Energy
  • Fiberglass: Indoor Air Quality Investigations: Health Concerns About Airborne Fiberglass: Fiberglass in Indoor Air from HVAC ducts, and Building Insulation
  • "Insulation: Adding Insulation to an Existing Home [copy on file as/interiors/Insulation_Adding_DOE.pdf ] - ," U.S. Department of Energy - tips on how to do your own check for the presence of absence of insulation in a home
  • Insulation: Selecting Insulation for New Home Construction [copy on file as /interiors/New_Home_Insulation_DOE.pdf ] - , U.S. Department of Energy - "Your state and local building codes probably include minimum insulation requirements, but to build an energy-efficient home, you may need or want to exceed them. For maximum energy efficiency, you should also consider the interaction between the insulation and other building components. This is called the "whole-house systems design approach." [copy on file as /interiors/Whole_House_Energy_Efficiency_DOE.pdf ] -
  • "Insulation Types [copy on file as /interiors/Insulation_Types_DOE.pdf ] - ", table of common building insulation properties from U.S. DOE. Readers should see INSULATION R-Values & Properties our own table of insulation properties that includes links to articles describing each insulation material in more detail.

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  • Home Reference Book - Carson DunlopThe Home Reference Book - the Encyclopedia of Homes, Carson Dunlop & Associates, Toronto, Ontario, 25th Ed., 2012, is a bound volume of more than 450 illustrated pages that assist home inspectors and home owners in the inspection and detection of problems on buildings. The text is intended as a reference guide to help building owners operate and maintain their home effectively. Field inspection worksheets are included at the back of the volume. Special Offer: For a 10% discount on any number of copies of the Home Reference Book purchased as a single order. Enter INSPECTAHRB in the order payment page "Promo/Redemption" space. InspectAPedia.com editor Daniel Friedman is a contributing author.

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