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Radiant heat caused floor gaps (C) Daniel Friedman Radiant Heated Floor Covering Choices
     

  • Radiant heat below wood flooring: what is the suitability of wood flooring compared with ceramic tile for use over radiant-heated concrete slabs
    • Choices of finish floor materials for concrete floor slabs
    • Damage to wood floors placed over radiant slab heat systems
    • Insulating effects of wood vs. ceramic tile over a radiant heat floor slab
  • Solar Age Magazine Articles on Renewable Energy, Energy Savings, Construction Practices
  • Questions & Answers about radiant heat beneath different types of finished floor surfaces: concrete, wood, ceramic tile
  • References

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  • RADIANT SLAB FLOORING CHOICES
  • RADIANT SLAB TUBING & FLUID CHOICES
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This article discusses the suitability of various tubing materials for radiant heated concrete floor slabs, and choices of heat conducting fluids for radiant floors. Our page top photo shows part of our investigation of wood flooring gaps over a radiant-heat tubing system installed during new construction of a New York home. When the owners complained about odors traced to the radiant heat tubing the installer tried to "cook" out the volatiles in the tubing by pushing the radiant heat system temperatures higher than normal. Ensuing flooring dryout and gapping became an issue for the new owner. In the photo, each of our pencils marks a gap in the oak strip flooring.

Green links show where you are. © Copyright 2013 InspectAPedia.com, All Rights Reserved. Author Daniel Friedman.

Radiant Slab Flooring Alternatives

Radiant heat garage floor (C) D FriedmanAccompanying text is reprinted/adapted/excerpted with permission from Solar Age Magazine - editor Steven Bliss. Readers should also see RADIANT HEAT where we describe radiant heat damage to wood floors, and see and RADIANT HEAT Floor Mistakes to Avoid, as well as SLAB INSULATION, PASSIVE SOLAR.

Our photo at left shows a concrete floor radiant heat system installed in Minneapolis MN in 2009.

The question-and-answer article about wood flooring over a radiant heated slab, quotes-from, updates, and comments an original article, from Solar Age Magazine and written by Steven Bliss.

What are the Effects, Problems, and Benefits of Choosing Finish Wood Flooring Compared with Ceramic Tile Over a Radiant Heated Floor Slab?

Question:

I am considering both ceramic tile and wood as finish floorings over a radiant slab similar to those featured in Solar Age (5/82).

The tile flooring would cost three times as much as the wood flooring. Would the heat from the radiant slab dry out, warp, [or cause ugly gaps between the boards of] the wood floor?

Also, how would the insulating effect of the wood affect the radiant slab's performance?

-- Thomas B. McCormick, III, Berkeley, CA.

Answer:

Dan Lewis of KLR Engineering, Keene NH ran a computer simulation on a 1500 square foot house with 200 square feet of solar collectors supplying a radiant slab floor.

Adding an R-2 carpet and padding to the floor raised the home's auxiliary heating load by 9 percent or about one million BTUs.

A thin wood floor installed with mastic directly to the concrete slab should have even less of a performance penalty.

The 90 degF to 100 degF temperatures of a radiant heated concrete slab won't harm the wood flooring, but you should check on the temperature range of the adhesive.

[Added comments by DJF]

Be careful about wood floor installation moisture and radiant heat slab operating temperatures

At RADIANT HEAT we describe wood floor damage complaints that we have investigated when wood floors were installed over a radiant floor heating system - in each case it appears that the problem was due either to improper floor installation, such as installing a wood floor at a too-high moisture level, or due to operating the heated floor slab at a higher temperature than recommended by the heating system manufacturer. (See our wood floor photo at page top for an example.)

Be careful about about installing a raised wood floor over a radiant heated slab

To avoid possible wood floor damage over a heated slab, some installers prefer to install a floating wood floor that is not secured directly to the slab, often over a "leveling board" that itself has some insulating value, probably increasing the home's heating load as in the model above.

Worse, installing a wood floor nailed to 1x or thicker sleepers (often 2x4's are used) floating over a radiant slab is likely to significantly increase the floor's insulation properties and reduce the effectiveness of the radiant heated floor slab, regardless of whether the heat is from a solar source or from another heating source such as a boiler.

Our OPINION is that ceramic tile will perform trouble-free over a radiant slab floor and in some installations such as our Green Cabin project discussed at RADIANT HEAT Floor Mistakes to Avoid, solar gain was also possible - of course that wasn't for a basement slab.

Our OPINION is that a wood floor over a radiant heat floor system can also be trouble free provided that the system and the flooring are properly installed. But there are more opportunities for foul-ups.

Here we include solar energy, solar heating, solar hot water, and related building energy efficiency improvement articles reprinted/adapted/excerpted with permission from Solar Age Magazine - editor Steven Bliss.

See these articles on radiant heated floors

FLOOR, WOOD RADIANT HEAT - guide to installing wood floors over radiant heat systems - this article is provided just below
RADIANT HEAT
- usage guide, strategies for using radiant heat
RADIANT HEAT TEMPERATURES
- at the boiler, in tubing, under floors, floor surface, thermostat & control settingsRADIANT SLAB FLOORING CHOICES - wood vs ceramic tile over a radiant heated floor - this article is provided just below.
RADIANT SLAB TUBING & FLUID CHOICES - tubing and fluid choices for radiant heating
RADIANT HEAT Floor Mistakes to Avoid - proper and improper radiant tubing depth in slabs & slab insulation needs - what can go very wrong when the building contractor substitutes brawn for brains
SLAB INSULATION, PASSIVE SOLAR - slab insulation & vapor barrier placement in heated floor slabs
WOOD FLOOR DAMAGE - from radiant tubing run too hot

Also see Thin Film Radiant Heating Systems for Ceilings & Floors for examples of how electric radiant heat may be installed beneath several types of finish flooring.

The link to the original Q&A article in PDF form immediately below was preceded by an expanded/updated online version of this article.

  • Q & A: Which is better, wood or tile over a radiant heated slab? - PDF form, what floor covering material works best over a radiant heated floor slab?

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Technical Reviewers & References

Related Topics, found near the top of this page suggest articles closely related to this one.

  • Solar Age Magazine was the official publication of the American Solar Energy Society. The contemporary solar energy magazine associated with the Society is Solar Today. "Established in 1954, the nonprofit American Solar Energy Society (ASES) is the nation's leading association of solar professionals & advocates. Our mission is to inspire an era of energy innovation and speed the transition to a sustainable energy economy. We advance education, research and policy. Leading for more than 50 years. ASES leads national efforts to increase the use of solar energy, energy efficiency and other sustainable technologies in the U.S. We publish the award-winning SOLAR TODAY magazine, organize and present the ASES National Solar Conference and lead the ASES National Solar Tour – the largest grassroots solar event in the world."
  • Steve Bliss's Building Advisor at buildingadvisor.com helps homeowners & contractors plan & complete successful building & remodeling projects: buying land, site work, building design, cost estimating, materials & components, & project management through complete construction. Email: info@buildingadvisor.com
    Steven Bliss served as editorial director and co-publisher of The Journal of Light Construction for 16 years and previously as building technology editor for Progressive Builder and Solar Age magazines. He worked in the building trades as a carpenter and design/build contractor for more than ten years and holds a masters degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Excerpts from his recent book, Best Practices Guide to Residential Construction, Wiley (November 18, 2005) ISBN-10: 0471648361, ISBN-13: 978-0471648369, appear throughout this website, with permission and courtesy of Wiley & Sons. Best Practices Guide is available from the publisher, J. Wiley & Sons, and also at Amazon.com
  • Portland Cement Association: www.concretethinker.com/Papers.aspx?DocId=8 indicates that
    - tubing for radiant heat in a concrete slab is installed UP TO two inches below the surface of the slab
    - the slab is insulated from the ground at all sides to direct heat upwards to the living space [this is our preferred design for a cold northern climate]
  • The Radiant Panel Association: www.radiantpanelassociation.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 offers design guidelines at http://www.radiantpanelassociation.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=115 including these insulation R-value and coverage details:
    Application#, Minimum R-Value, and Insulation Coverage
    The following insulation alternatives are given for Slab on Grade construction:
    Alternate #1 [(Ti-To)x0.125)=R-value, with coverage from perimeter to below frost line ["Ti-To" means we calculate the necessary R-value as (Ratio of indoor to outdoor temperature) x 0.125]
    Alternate #2 R-value=5, with coverage 4' horizontal or vertical at perimeter
    Alternate #3 R-value=5, with coverage under entire slab and slab edge [this is our preferred design for a cold northern climate]
    The Radiant Panel Association offers education and publications in radiant heat design. See radiantpanelassociation.org
  • Takagi radiant heat systems: Takagi offers pre-assembled radiant heating system installation packages including for do-it-yourself'ers, and including systems that combine radiant heat flooring with domestic hot water production using a gas-fired tankless water heater. See takagi.com for more information. "The T-KJr model (gas inputs up to 140,000 BTU per hour) is the smallest unit in the Takagi line-up. The T-KJr is perfect for light residential (i.e. small apartment units) and radiant heating applications." Also see Tankless Water Heaters.
  • Passive Solar Design Handbook Volume I, the Passive Solar Handbook Introduction to Passive Solar Concepts, in a version used by the U.S. Air Force - online version available at this link and from the USAF also at wbdg.org/ccb/AF/AFH/pshbk_v1.pdf
  • Passive Solar Design Handbook Volume II, the Passive Solar Handbook Comprehensive Planning Guide, in a version used by the U.S. Air Force - online version available at this link and from the USAF also at wbdg.org/ccb/AF/AFH/pshbk_v2.pdf [This is a large PDF file that can take a while to load]
  • Passive Solar Handbook Volume III, the Passive Solar Handbook Programming Guide, in a version used by the U.S. Air Force - online version available at this link and from the USAF also at wbdg.org/ccb/AF/AFH/pshbk_v3.pdf
  • The Passive Solar Design and Construction Handbook, Steven Winter Associates (Author), Michael J. Crosbie (Editor), Wiley & Sons, ISBN 978-047118382 or 0471183083 is available at Amazon.com and via the The Passive Solar Design and Construction Handbook, Steven Winter Associates (Author), Michael J. Crosbie (Editor), Wiley & Sons, ISBN 978-047118382 or 0471183083 is available at Amazon.com and via the InspectAPedia Bookstore
  • "Passive Solar Home Design", U.S. Department of Energy, describes using a home's windows, walls, and floors to collect and store solar energy for winter heating and also rejecting solar heat in warm weather.
  • "Solar Water Heaters", U.S. Department of Energy article on solar domestic water heaters to generate domestic hot water in buildings, explains how solar water heaters work. Solar heat for swimming pools is also discussed.
  • "Heat Exchangers for Solar Water Heating Systems", U.S. DOE describes the types of solar water heater heat exchange methods between the sun and the building's hot water supply
  • "Heat-Transfer Fluids for Solar Water Heating Systems", U.S. DOE, describes the types of fluids selected to transfer heat between the solar collector and the hot water in storage tanks in a building. These include air, water, water with glycol antifreeze mixtures (needed when using solar hot water systems in freezing climates), hydrocarbon oils, and refrigerants or silicones for heat transfer.
  • "Solar Water Heating System Maintenance and Repair", U.S. DOE
  • "Solar Water Heating System Freeze Protection", U.S. DOE,using antifreeze mixture in solar water heaters (or other freeze-resistant heat transfer fluids), as well as piping to permit draining the solar collector and piping system.
  • "Scaling and Corrosion in Solar Water Heating Systems", U.S. DOE
  • www.energysavers.gov/your_home/water_heating/index.cfm/mytopic=12850 is the base U.S. DOE website for these articles
  • "Active Solar Heating Systems", U.S. Department of Energy, including
  • "Radiant Heating Systems" U.S. DOE
  • "Absorption Heat Pumps & Coolers", U.S. DOE
  • "Solar Air Heating" U.S. DOE also referred to as "Ventilation Preheating" in which solar systems use air for absorbing and transferring solar energy or heat to a building
  • "Solar Liquid Heating" U.S. DOE, systems using liquid (typically water) in flat plate solar collectors to collect solar energy in the form of heat for transfer into a building for space heating or hot water heating. The term "solar liquid" is used for accuracy, rather than "solar water" because the water may contain an antifreeze or other chemicals.

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