InspectAPedia ®

Building & Environmental Inspection, Testing, Diagnosis, Repair, & Problem Prevention Advice
InspectAPedia
Home
| Air
Conditioning
| Electrical | Indoor
Environment
| Exteriors | Heating | Home
Inspection
| Insulate
Ventilate
| Interiors | Mold
Inspect/Test
| Plumbing
Water
Septic
| Roofing | Structure | Contact Us
Directory of Professionals to Inspect or Test a Building


AIR CONDITIONING & HEAT PUMP SYSTEMS
A/C COMPONENTS
A/C DATA TAGS
A/C DIAGNOSTIC FAQs
A/C REFRIGERANTS
A/C TYPES, ENERGY SOURCES
AIR CONDITIONER BTU CHART
AIR FILTERS for HVAC SYSTEMS
AIR HANDLER UNITS
APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
BACKUP HEAT for HEAT PUMPS
BLOWER DOORS & AIR INFILTRATION
BOOKSTORE - Air Conditioning "How To" Books
CLEANING & Legionella BACTERIA
  Should we disinfect
  Wisconsin Protocol for Cleaning A/C
  Legionella sp. Health Concerns
  What are Legionella
  Where do Legionella sp. occur?
  Recommended Level for Legionella sp.
  How When to Test for Legionella sp.
  Legionnaires' Disease Information from CDC
COMPRESSOR CONDENSER
CONDENSATE HANDLING
  DRIP TRAY DEFECTS
  CONDENSATE LEAKS
  CONDENSATE PUMPS
  CONDENSATE DRAINS
  CONDENSATE TRAY CLEANING
CONTROLS & SWITCHES
COOL OFF HEAT Thermostat Switch
COOLING CAPACITY, RATED
COOLING COIL or EVAPORATOR COIL
DATA TAGS on AIR CONDITIONERS
COMBUSTION GASES & PARTICLE HAZARDS
COMBUSTION PRODUCTS & IAQ
DEFINITION of Heating & Cooling Terms
DEW POINT CALCULATION for WALLS
DEW POINT TABLE - CONDENSATION POINT GUIDE
DUCT SYSTEMS
DUCTS - Asbestos
DUCT SYSTEM DEFECTS
DUCT INSULATION, Asbestos Paper
DUCT INSULATION for SOUNDPROOFING
DUCTS, Asbestos Transite Pipe
DUST FROM HVAC?
ENERGY SAVINGS in BUILDINGS
EVAPORATIVE COOLING SYSTEMS
FAN AUTO ON Thermostat Switch
FAN CONVECTOR HEATERS - HYDRONIC COILS
HEAT LOSS (or GAIN) in BUILDINGS
INDOOR AIR QUALITY & HOUSE TIGHTNESS
INDOOR AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT GUIDE
INSPECTION LIMITATIONS
LOST COOLING CAPACITY
MOTOR OVERLOAD RESET SWITCH
OPERATING COST
OPERATING DEFECTS
OPERATING TEMPERATURES
REPAIR GUIDE for AIR CONDITIONERS
REPAIR & DIAGNOSTIC FAQs for A/C
REFRIGERANTS
SEER RATINGS & OTHER DEFINITIONS
SYSTEM OPERATION
SWAMP COOLERS
THERMOSTATS
THERMOSTATIC EXPANSION VALVES
CRITICAL DEFECTS on A/C SYSTEMS

More Information

InspectAPedia ® Home & Site Map
Air Conditioning & Heat Pumps
Bookstore
Electrical
Environment
Exteriors
Heating
Home Inspection
Insulate Ventilate
Interiors
Mold Inspect/Test
Plumbing Water Septic
Roofing
Structure
Accuracy & Privacy Policies
Contact Us



Photograph of  improper condensate drain connected to plumbing vent line

Air Conditioning condensate drains, condensate pumps, and their proper installation
InspectAPedia®  -    

  • Air Conditioning condensate drains, condensate pumps, and their proper installation
  • Air Conditioning Condensate Handling Defects
  • A/C condensate piping, leaks, hazards
Our site offers impartial, unbiased advice without conflicts of interest. We will block advertisements which we discover or readers inform us are associated with bad business practices, false-advertising, or junk science. Our contact info is at InspectAPedia.com/appointment.htm.

This chapter of "How to Inspect the Central Air Conditioning or Cooling System" discusses the inspection of air conditioning condensate systems, including Air Conditioning condensate drains, condensate pumps, and their proper installation as part of our review of condensate piping, traps, drains, condensate pumps, and the detection and hazards of air conditioning system condensate leaks in buildings. Condensate leak health and safety concerns are reviewed.

Contact us to suggest text changes and additions and, if you wish, to receive online listing and credit for that contribution.

© Copyright 2010 Daniel Friedman, All Rights Reserved. Information Accuracy & Bias Pledge is at below-left. Use the links at page left to navigate this document or to go to Other Website Topics. Green links at left show where you are in our document & website.

CONDENSATE DRAINS - Air Conditioning Condensate Drains into Building Plumbing Vent

Photograph of  improper condensate drain connected to plumbing vent line

Sewer Gas Hazards at Air Conditioners

[Example air conditioning system inspection report language]: *** Safety Recommendation: this condensate line is connected to the house drain/vent piping - risking possible bacteria or even dangerous sewer gases entering the building air handling system.

Good practice (and some building and mechanical codes) includes a moisture trap (just as with other plumbing drains) and routing of the condensate to a wet drain line or preferably outside to discharge into the gutter system or to the ground.

Sewer gases include methane which is an explosive gas. We don't want methane nor bacteria in our air conditioning system.

Photograph of  improper condensate drain connected to plumbing vent line

Here is a second example of improperly connected air conditioner condensate drain lines to a plumbing vent: the condensate line is connected to the house drain/vent piping; according to some experts and plumbing codes this is an improper plumbing connection, and for some lines there also is no condensate trap in this plumbing arrangement, risking possible bacteria or even dangerous sewer gases entering the building air handling system.

Good practice includes a moisture trap (just as with other plumbing drains) to help prevent this problem. Our understanding is that despite this very common installation found in our area, this is an improper plumbing connection which is dumping liquids into plumbing lines intended for dry-use only.

Correction by a qualified plumber does not usually involve significant expense.

HEALTH NOTE: Condensate drains should not be connected directly to a house drain as bacteria can grow back up the condensate line to contaminate building air, or sewer gases may be drawn up the drain and into the building air when the blower fan is operating.

Plumbing Code Citation for Installation of Air Conditioning Condensate Drain Piping

Here is an excerpt from the Uniform Mechanical Code pertaining to the disposal of air conditioning condensate:
Section 310.0, 310.1 Condensate Disposal:

Condensate from air washers, air cooling coils, fuel-burning condensing appliances, the overflow from evaporative coolers and similar water supplied equipment or similar air conditioning equipment shall be collected and discharged to an approved plumbing fixture or disposal area. If discharged into the drainage system equipment shall drain by means of an indirect waste pipe. The waste pipe shall have a slope of not less than 1/8 inch per foot (10.5 mm/m) or one percent slope and shall be of approved corrosion-resistant material not smaller than the outlet size as required in either Section 310.3 or 310.4 below for air-cooling coils or condensing fuel-burning appliances, respectively. Condensate or waste water shall not drain over a public way.

To clarify, an indirect waste pipe is something that is upstream of a trap. That means we cannot dump into anything downstream of a trap. That would include the main plumbing vent stack. -- [Thanks to Al Carson, Carson Dunlop Associates, Toronto]

More Examples of Improper Disposal of Air Conditioning Condensate Disposal

Photograph of condensate spillage in a crawl space

Air conditioner condensate spillage in crawl spaces
: is sometimes seen, especially if it's a dirt-floor crawl space.The installer probably figures the condensate will just "go away" through the soil exposed in the crawl area.

What s/he failed to consider is the risks of a legionnaire's infection or a mold problem caused by spillage of water into an indoor, and in this case confined and rarely-inspected space.

Photograph of condensate spillage on the wall
Air conditioner condensate spillage down building walls
: such as the condensate from this attic air handler can stain the building walls and is simply ugly.

An expert HVAC technician might also have something to say about those rust stains themselves - we may be looking at rust from inside the air handler, indicating that A/C condensate is spilling and leaking around inside the unit - perhaps we're actually looking at a hidden mold problem in this building - more investigation would be appropriate.

 

 

Safety Hazards of Air Conditioning System Condensate Leaks Onto a Furnace Heat Exchanger

Photograph of A/C condensate damage to a furnace heat exchanger (maybe) Photograph of A/C condensate damage to a furnace heat exchanger (maybe)

Air conditioner condensate leaks into a furnace as we can see in these two photographs, can be dangerous. If the air conditioner condensate leaks cause rust holes in the furnace heat exchanger there is risk of dangerous flue gases, including carbon monoxide, leaking into the building air supply when the heater is running.

The rust seen in the bottom of the blower compartment tells us that this problem has gone on for some time. Further inspection of the heat exchanger is needed for damage, and on most systems, further inspection for mold contamination in the air handler and duct work may also be in order since the system has been spilling water into the air handler and perhaps the ductwork.

Notes About Disposal of Air Conditioning Condensate Outdoors

Photograph of outdoor air conditioner condensate disposal This photograph shows a typical point of disposal of air conditioning condensate outdoors, onto the ground. This A/C condensate line originated at the air handler in the building attic, though at some installations we could be looking at condensate from a condensate pump located in the building basement.

There's basically no issue with disposing of condensate at this location, though this particular photo shows two more subtle points to watch:

  1. There is some soil subsidence going on where the condensate is dripping, telling us that the soil around the foundation is fresh, loose backfill. Watch out that the air conditioner compressor/condenser unit does not begin to tip as this backfill settles further from the soil subsidence that will accompany rainfall, snowmelt, and time. Concerns for tipping A/C condenser units are discussed at Air Conditioner Compressor & Condenser Installation Errors.

  2. Foundation leaks: The second more subtle point to watch that has evidence in this photo is that little shrinkage crack we see in the poured concrete foundation right where the A/C condensate is dripping. We might see water leaks into the building interior at this point if the foundation is visible indoors, or if the wall has been covered with finish materials we might have a mold problem. I wouldn't go on to cut open such a wall to investigate this particular case further without other corroborating evidence. More about foundation crack diagnosis is available at How to Diagnose & Evaluate Vertical Foundation Cracks.
Photograph of outdoor air conditioner condensate disposal




This photograph shows what seems to us to be a sloppy installation of air conditioner condensate drainage.

The installer has sent the condensate drain line outdoors (fine) through the building eaves or soffit (OK) but left the condensate drain pipe terminated where it drips onto a lower roof, splashing up and staining building siding, possibly creating a wear spot on the roof shingles, and thus perhaps a roof leak before the rest of the shingles are ready for replacement.

Condensate Drains Routed to Hidden Locations

Photograph of drains to a hidden location Condensate drains routed to hidden locations: What about installers who route a condensate drain to some hidden location? The drains in this photo might be ok, or maybe not - it depends. If they disappear into an inaccessible or not readily visible location such as a crawl space the system is asking for trouble - such as a wet moldy crawl space.

If the drains appear outside or at some other visible location we're in good shape. In this particular case, the air conditioning system for the computer center of a large college was draining onto the floor of a utility room where condensate ran along drywall and then across to a floor drain. The drywall gave us a little area of mold to clean up but luckily nothing of any consequence. We could see the ends of this drain if we looked long enough.

The discharge point of all of the air conditioning system condensate drain lines, that is the system condensate drain and the air conditioner condensate overflow pan drain, must be readily observable. (Ref. Uniform Mechanical Code Sec. 1205 and Sec. 510. Condensate overflow pan is suggested for attic space per UMC (Uniform Mechanical Code) Section 1205.)

Share this Article      

...

Technical Reviewers & References

Use links just below or at the left of each page to navigate this document or to view other topics at this website. Green links show where you are in our document or website.

A/C COMPONENTS
A/C DATA TAGS
A/C DIAGNOSTIC FAQs
A/C REFRIGERANTS
A/C TYPES, ENERGY SOURCES
AIR CONDITIONER BTU CHART
AIR FILTERS for HVAC SYSTEMS
AIR HANDLER UNITS
APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
BACKUP HEAT for HEAT PUMPS
BLOWER DOORS & AIR INFILTRATION
BOOKSTORE - Air Conditioning "How To" Books
CLEANING & Legionella BACTERIA
  Should we disinfect
  Wisconsin Protocol for Cleaning A/C
  Legionella sp. Health Concerns
  What are Legionella
  Where do Legionella sp. occur?
  Recommended Level for Legionella sp.
  How When to Test for Legionella sp.
  Legionnaires' Disease Information from CDC
COMPRESSOR CONDENSER
CONDENSATE HANDLING
  DRIP TRAY DEFECTS
  CONDENSATE LEAKS
  CONDENSATE PUMPS
  CONDENSATE DRAINS
  CONDENSATE TRAY CLEANING
CONTROLS & SWITCHES
COOL OFF HEAT Thermostat Switch
COOLING CAPACITY, RATED
COOLING COIL or EVAPORATOR COIL
DATA TAGS on AIR CONDITIONERS
COMBUSTION GASES & PARTICLE HAZARDS
COMBUSTION PRODUCTS & IAQ
DEFINITION of Heating & Cooling Terms
DEW POINT CALCULATION for WALLS
DEW POINT TABLE - CONDENSATION POINT GUIDE
DUCT SYSTEMS
DUCTS - Asbestos
DUCT SYSTEM DEFECTS
DUCT INSULATION, Asbestos Paper
DUCT INSULATION for SOUNDPROOFING
DUCTS, Asbestos Transite Pipe
DUST FROM HVAC?
ENERGY SAVINGS in BUILDINGS
EVAPORATIVE COOLING SYSTEMS
FAN AUTO ON Thermostat Switch
FAN CONVECTOR HEATERS - HYDRONIC COILS
HEAT LOSS (or GAIN) in BUILDINGS
INDOOR AIR QUALITY & HOUSE TIGHTNESS
INDOOR AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT GUIDE
INSPECTION LIMITATIONS
LOST COOLING CAPACITY
MOTOR OVERLOAD RESET SWITCH
OPERATING COST
OPERATING DEFECTS
OPERATING TEMPERATURES
REPAIR GUIDE for AIR CONDITIONERS
REPAIR & DIAGNOSTIC FAQs for A/C
REFRIGERANTS
SEER RATINGS & OTHER DEFINITIONS
SYSTEM OPERATION
SWAMP COOLERS
THERMOSTATS
THERMOSTATIC EXPANSION VALVES
CRITICAL DEFECTS
Air Conditioning "How To" Books

Books & Articles on Building & Environmental Inspection, Testing, Diagnosis, & Repair

AIR CONDITIONING & HEAT PUMP SYSTEMS

More Information

InspectAPedia.comInspectAPedia ® Home & Site Map
InspectAPedia Blog - News Updates
Air Conditioning & Heat Pumps
Bookstore
Electrical
Environment
Exteriors
Heating
Home Inspection
Insulate Ventilate
Interiors
Mold Inspect/Test
Plumbing Water Septic
Roofing
Structure
Accuracy & Privacy Policies
Contact Us

More Information on Building Diagnostic Inspections and Repairs

    ...
InspectAPedia.comInspectAPedia® Home & Site Map - Building & Environmental Inspection, Testing, Diagnosis, Repair, & Problem Prevention Advice: In-depth research & advice on diagnosing, testing, correcting, & preventing building defects & indoor environmental hazards. Unbiased information, no conflicts of interest.
GO TO the MOLD and INDOOR ENVIRONMENT INFORMATION CENTER for in-depth advice on avoiding testing for or cleaning up mold and other indoor environmental hazards, odors, gases, contaminants
The Mold Information Center:
What to Do About Mold in Buildings, When and How to Inspect for Mold, Clean Up Mold, or Avoid Mold Problems
GO TO MOLD TEST KITS: This expert-recommended mold test kit is cheap and yet top performing *IF* you use a competent analysis laboratory!
Use this simple, economical mold test kit
by following our instructions on how to collect and mail mold samples to our lab
GO TO IAQ/MOLD-TEST LAB SERVICES: Mold, Pollen, indoor air quality, field and laboratory services by an expert.Environmental Inspection, Testing, & Diagnosis On-Site IAQ, Gas, Air Testing, Mold Investigation, Sick Building Diagnosis, Lab Services, & Remediation Plan Preparation - indoor air quality testing, problem source determination, supporting lab work, written remediation plan addressing removal of environmental and other hazards and prevention of their recurrence.
GO TO our PRE PURCHASE BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES: Authoritative information for home buyers and home owners is included with your inspection.
Building Inspection, Problem Diagnosis
, Forensic Investigation & Testing, Repair Consulting

CONTACT Daniel Friedman - Dan is a senior ASHI home inspector, nationally recognized expert on building inspection, building failures, and sick building investigation
Contact Daniel Friedman for website content suggestions or for fee-paid consulting

01/20/2010 - 03/28/1995 - InspectAPedia.com/aircond/aircond17c.htm - © 2010 - 1988 Copyright Daniel Friedman All Rights Reserved - InspectAPedia® is a Registered U.S. Trademark