Question? Just ask us!
Free Encyclopedia of Building & Environmental Inspection, Testing, Diagnosis, Repair
InspectAPedia ® Home
CHIMNEY INSPECTION DIAGNOSIS REPAIR
BACKDRAFTING HEATING EQUIPMENT
CARBON MONOXIDE - CO
CHIMNEY COMPONENT DEFINITIONS
CHIMNEY FIRE ACTION / PREVENTION
COMBUSTION GASES & PARTICLE HAZARDS
COMBUSTION PRODUCTS & IAQ
FLAME COLOR, BLUE vs YELLOW COMBUSTION
HEATING SYSTEM INSPECTION
HOME HEATING SAFETY
ODORS & SMELLS DIAGNOSIS & CURE
SAFETY RECALLS CHIMNEYS VENTS HEATERS
STAIN DIAGNOSIS on BUILDING EXTERIORS
WOOD, COAL STOVES & FIREPLACES
WOOD STOVE SAFETY
This article describes how to select, install, and inspect Class-A insulated metal chimneys such as the Insulated Double Wall MetalBestos™ manufactured metal chimney, also called a zero clearance chimney. These articles on chimneys and chimney safety provide detailed suggestions describing how to perform a thorough visual inspection of chimneys for safety and other defects. Chimney inspection methods and chimney repair methods are also discussed.
Green links show where you are. © Copyright 2013 InspectAPedia.com, All Rights Reserved.
Improper metal chimney installation: As you can see from our photo ( above left), even this superb product can be reduced to shambles when installed by an idiot. The chimney in this photo was not supported, is falling and is unsafe. See Chimney Collapse Hazards & Chimney Support & Bracing Requirements.
This unfortunate collapsing Class-A type metal chimney was the replacement for the abandoned masonry chimney under the corrugated metal roof we show at Chimneys Abandoned Outdoors and that whose remains we showed at Chimneys Abandoned Indoors. It looks as if more than one generation of inexpert chimney installers worked in Dover, NY.
Our photo at above right shows an end view of a section of Metalbestos SS All Fuel Chimney™. The fiberglass insulation is not part of the product and was just left stuffed in that opening.
Class-A Insulated double wall all-fuel chimneys such as the MetalBestos model SS All-Fuel Chimney™ are constructed of double walled stainless steel (usually) and include an insulating material (originally asbestos) between the two metal layers. Class A chimneys have been replaced in some jurisdictions with Super Chimneys or Type 629 Chimneys (also called Type 650 C chimneys) which we discuss below.Carson Dunlop's sketch at left shows a Class "A" chimney, of which our photos are an example.
Metalbestos™ type chimneys are available in different diameters, lengths, and with elbows, caps, and supporting base kits. These chimneys are used often to vent oil fired heating equipment as well as woodstoves and zero-clearance or built-in fireplaces. Our photograph at above left shows an installation leaving the insulated metal chimney exposed on the home exterior.
While these insulated chimneys may be rated for zero clearance from combustibles by the manufacturer, many building codes require at least a one-inch clearance between the chimney and any combustible materials.
Our photo below shows a wood-framed chimney chase that might enclose an insulated metal chimney or a Type-B Gas vent chimney.
Class A Chimney Height Requirements
More complete details about chimney height requirements on buildings including Class A Chimneys is at CHIMNEY HEIGHT & CLEARANCE CODE
Class A Chimney Fire Clearance Details
More complete details about Class-A chimney fire clearances indoors can be read at FIRE CLEARANCES, METAL CHIMNEYS
Should an Insulated or "Air Cooled" Metal Chimney Be Replaced After a Chimney Fire has Occurred?
Question: What Kind of Inspection Is Required After a Metal Chimney Fire?
I was looking for information on chimney fires, specifically, on how to inspect double wall pipe after such an event. The outside of the outer pipe had paper stickers on it that were not burnt or discolored, so I am assuming the pipe did its job. However the top of the chimney run did catch on fire, presumably from the heat generated from the chimney fire. Anyway, I was looking for a category on how to inspect double wall pipe after a fire. - K.M.
Reply: Inspect for visible flue damage, color changes, movement, cracks; but to be safe: in our opinion you should replace the chimney
After a chimney fire (such as from igniting creosote in a metal flue), a competent onsite chimney inspection by an expert usually finds additional clues that help accurately diagnose a problem. That said, we add the following opinion:
In sum: in our opinion after a chimney fire in an insulated metal chimney or an air-insulated metal chimney the chimney should be replaced entirely in order to be safe and to assure that maximum fire protection for the building is maintained. In addition you should inspect for heat or fire damage to surrounding building components. Details follow.
Some chimney repair companies and building codes cite that "metal chimneys must be inspected after a fire for possible need for replacement". We speculate that the chimney inspector will look for deformed, cracked, metal components, movement, color changes in the stainless steel, or signs of overheating or damage to surrounding building components.
If the metal chimney liner and metal exterior of a multi-wall insulated metal chimney are undamaged, one might think that the internal chimney insulation of a multi-wall insulated metal chimney or flue was intact. But that may not be true. In addition there may be subtle damage to surrounding building components such as pyrolysis (discussed at Fire stopping at Chimney Passage Through Floors) that could lower the combustion point and increase the risk of a future fire in nearby wood materials. Some sources point out that
We have observed steel flues that turned blue and also black after a fire.
A "be safe" approach requires that insulated chimneys are replaced after a fire.
We believe that this makes sense because because during a chimney fire the internal temperatures can be extremely high and thus can damage the flue in both obvious and less obvious ways that may not be visible and no one wants to take a chance.
Furthermore, the "after 900 degrees" rule is impractical: - who is actually measuring chimney temperature during a fire? The 900 degF number in our OPINION is not helpful.
Most chimney sources point out that it's common for a chimney fire to reach 2000 degF! Who wants to risk an unsafe flue after a fire when a new fire could still occur and could meet less protection.
A similar example is with earthquake-resistant construction: the construction is designed to keep the building from collapsing and killing the occupants, but it is not expected to prevent any damage whatsoever to the building. So after a quake repairs are going to be needed.
CONTACT us with suggestions for this topic.
Chimney Safety References:
Green link shows where you are in this article series.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
No FAQs have been posted for this page. Try the search box below or CONTACT US by email if you cannot find the answer you need at InspectApedia.
Questions & answers or comments about Class A Metal Chimneys & Flues.
Ask a Question or Enter Search Terms in the InspectApedia search box just below.
Technical Reviewers & References
Related Topics, found near the top of this page suggest articles closely related to this one.