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This article describes the fire safety clearance distances required between oil and gas fired heating equipment and the nearest combustible surfaces. These articles on chimneys and chimney safety provide detailed suggestions describing how to perform a thorough visual inspection of chimneys for safety and other defects. Chimney inspection methods and chimney repair methods are also discussed. As with most inspection and safety topics, this material may be incomplete. The process and temperatures under which wood deteriorates and becomes more readily combustible is also discussed at SOLAR COLLECTOR WOOD HOUSINGS. © Copyright 2012 InspectAPedia.com, All Rights Reserved. Information Accuracy & Bias Pledge is at below-left. Use page top links to major topics or use links at the left of each page to navigate within topics and documents at this website. Green links show where you are in a document series or at this website. Our page top photo shows a gas fired heating appliance flue vent connector routed under and touching wood stairs. Fire Clearance for Single-Wall Metal Flue Vent ConnectorsReduction in Fire Clearance from Flues by Using Heat ShieldsCombustible fire clearance can often be reduced by proper installation of an approved heat shield. Good heat shield design includes use of noncombustible shield material, a space for air to circulate behind the heat shield, and mounting using connectors that do not transmit heat to the surface being protected. Watch out: Our photo (below right) shows tremolite asbestos fireproof panels placed on a ceiling, in this instance as a fire barrier not a heat shield. This material is an environmental hazard. see Fireproofing containing Asbestos for details.
Metal Flue Fire Clearance Requirements - Single Wall Metal Pipe Flues & Oil Fired EquipmentFlue vent connectors, also called smoke pipe, stack pipe, or flue pipe by some people, are typically single-walled metal pipes connecting a heating appliance to a chimney, vent, or flue.
Oil-fired heating equipment: Unless we have different explicit guidance from the manufacturer of an oil-fired heating appliance being vented, we want to see at least 18" of clearances between the flue vent connector and the nearest combustible surface. Sketch (above left) courtesy Carson Dunlop. Photo (above right) shows a 4 1/2" distance between an oil-fired heating flue vent connector and wood framing. Also notice the leak stains on the flue exterior? see Flue Vent Connectors - Boilers, Furnaces for details about flue vent connectors. Metal Flue Fire Clearance Requirements - Single Wall Metal Pipe Flues & Gas Fired Equipment:
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Gas-fired heating equipment: fire clearances required range from 6" to 36" depending on the equipment. 9" is a typical clearance between a gas-fired boiler or furnace flue connector and combustibles. Inadequate fire clearance from combustibles may not be obvious until you open a door such as our client is pointing out in this photograph. If someone simply leaves the door open so that it touches the heating flue, there is a fire risk. we have found charred door edges in just this installation. For a more complete listing of clearances by gas-fired appliance type see the table of Listed Flue Vent Connectors for Gas Fired Heating Appliances. |
I have a 5 year old combination forced air, natural gas fired furnace/air conditioner unit located in my hall closet. The metal furnace flue extends vertically through the closet ceiling, through the attic and roof. The vertical flue at the ceiling level is surrounded by and attached to a horizontal piece of open 1/2" X 1/2" metal mesh screen (about 10" square). The mesh design allows an open, back and forth air flow from the interior heating/air unit closet into and from the attic area.
The original louvers on the hall door have recently been sealed/boarded shut, no air coming through the louvers. Normal return air to the unit is directly below the unit adjacent to the floor.
Most of the furnace flue extensions I've seen are constructed through solid sheet rock at the ceiling level, (with no surrounding open area into the attic space) then through the roof. No ceiling mesh.
Questions: Is there a reason why the open 10" area around the furnace flue, at the ceiling level, is surrounded by a mesh screen and open to the attic space? This opening in the ceiling allows a hot and cold air draft flow into and out of the interior of the closet area along with considerable amount of attic debris. Could it have been designed that way to allow combustion air to be introduced to the unit? Can the screen mesh area around the flue at the ceiling level be sealed/closed off and not affect the performance of the heat/air unit? - Ray Haines
Ray,
About fire clearances and heating flues including the one you describe, I suspect that your flue is an older installation that relied on air circulation around the flue as it passed through the ceiling for cooling and to meet fire clearance regulations. It's possible, not having seen your system, that either that opening or the louvered doors you described, were also providing combustion air, just as you suggest.
I would be very concerned about closing off the louvered door opening as you describe, because you may be reducing the amount of combustion air, resulting in dangerous, even fatal levels of carbon monoxide produced by your gas fired heater.
I would also not close off the openings around the flue as you may also increase temperatures and interfere with its fire -rating.
Take a look at both Fire Clearances, Single-Wall Metal Flues [the article above] and at COMBUSTION AIR DEFECTS
Questions & answers about chimney fire clearance specifications & requirements for metal flues.
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