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Troubleshooting cold steam radiators: this article describes the diagnosis & repair of cold steam heating convectors or steam radiators. We provide articles that help in diagnosing and repairing no-heat problems with each types of hot water or steam or fan convector heat delivery systems. InspectAPedia tolerates no conflicts of interest. We have no relationship with advertisers nor with topics or services discussed at this website.© Copyright 2010 Daniel Friedman, All Rights Reserved. Information Accuracy & Bias Pledge is at below-left. Use links at the left of each page to navigate this document or to view other topics at this website. Green links show where you are in our document or website. How to Troubleshoot & Fix Cold Steam Radiators in 5 StepsOur page top heating system illustration is provided compliments of Carson Dunlop Associates. If your heating system uses hot water (not steam) radiators, convectors, or baseboards, in other words, not steam heat, see COLD HOT WATER BASEBOARD / RADIATOR for help in diagnosing and fixing radiators that won't get hot. This website answers most questions about all types of heating systems and gives important inspection, safety, and repair advice. If you don't know what kind of heat your building uses, we explain how to figure out the answer at HEATING SYSTEM TYPES. If your heating system is not working properly, see NO HEAT - BOILER or NO HEAT - FURNACE. Cold Steam Radiator Diagnosis Step 1: Check the thermostat & the steam boilerMake sure that your room thermostat is set to a temperature higher than the temperature in the room - so that it is calling for heat. Make sure that your heating boiler is working, that is that the heating boiler turns on and off normally. A steam boiler will usually turn on right away in response to the thermostat being turned up or on a call for heat. Step 2: Check the radiator control valveMake sure that the control valve at the heating radiator is "open" or "on" as we describe just below.
Step 3: check the steam vent on the radiator
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If some of your steam heat radiators are not getting hot, the steam vent may not be working, may not be venting at all (radiator stays cold) or may be venting too slowly (radiator heats to proper temperature but too slowly)[2] If a steam radiator valve is open but the radiator is still cold, the steam vent may not be working. Our photo (above right) shows a typical steam radiator vent. When steam is first rising in the heating system, the steam heating radiator will be cool as will be the steam vent. The vent opens, allowing rising steam to enter the radiator by pushing air out through the vent. When the steam radiator and steam vent are warm or hot, the vent closes. If a steam vent stops working, rising steam cannot enter the radiator and it will be slow to heat or may not heat at all. See Steam Vents and also STEAM HEATING SYSTEMS for details. |
Steam radiator sloped the wrong way - steam condensate blockage As our Carson Dunlop sketch shows (above, left), steam radiators can be sensitive to exactly how they are installed and pitched or sloped. You'll want to learn if your steam heating system is a "one pipe" or a "two pipe" design, but in either case, if the steam supply or condensate return piping have been moved or settled so as to have lost the proper slope, correcting those conditions may be needed. That's because condensate, produced by cooling steam in the radiator, has to be able to drain back out of the radiator. A steam radiator that is sloped the wrong way, perhaps due to building floor settlement or a change made by an inexperienced remodeler, will become partly or even completely blocked by accumulated condensate, leading to loss of heat. Steam heating system controls, inspection, diagnosis, and repair are discussed beginning at STEAM HEATING SYSTEMS. |
If you steam radiator is too hot in a two-pipe steam system, according to the U.S. DOE, check the steam traps:
In two-pipe systems, older steam traps often stick in either the open or closed position, throwing off the balance in the system. If you seem to have problems with some radiators providing too much heat and others providing too little, this might be the cause. The best approach is often to simply replace all the steam traps in the system.
I have done all the above. Pitched the radiator, changed the air valve, even putting a larger orifice air valve and removing the radiator to check the open and closed position of the supply valve. I still get cold radiators. The larger steam supply valves are properly pitched in the basement and the boiler runs a sufficient amount of time to build up pressure. Is there anything else?? - Robert
More information:
This problem exists in both a private house and in a six family dwelling. Both have a one pipe system. In the private house, only the second fl rear (about 3 radiators) are cold. The radiators directly below are hot. In the 6 family, both apartments on the 2nd fl are cold or get hot on one side only. - Robert
If anyone has this problem check for leaks, cracks or holes in the sections of the steaam boiler. Also check return lines for leaks. It seems if fresh water is constantly being fed to the boiler, a corrosive reaction takes place in the sections of the boiler.
In this case there were leaks undetected in the return lines which caused water to be added constantly.
The fresh water ate at the sections in the chamber causing two small holes. This in turn did not allow enough pressure to build up for steam to reach the radiators. After replacing boiler all radiators were very hot and also at a much faster rate. - Robert
Robert,
Thanks for your comments, and I apologize that we didn't catch them sooner. Sometimes the volume of comments leaves us behind.
Your cold steam radiator diagnosis success will add a helpful item to check and I'll add it into the diagnostic text above.
Indeed if your steam boiler is using more water than usual, I usually suspect a leak somewhere - often a small leak in a condensate line can go unnoticed; On occasion we also find excessive water consumption because radiator steam vent valves are not closing when they should (when the radiator is hot).
But I had forgotten that an internal leak in the boiler and that is going unnoticed and iss large enough to prevent building up adequate steam pressure to heat the radiators can result in low boiler pressure, increased water use, and failure to deliver heat to upper floors.
And your reminder that abnormal water consumption increases corrosion in the boiler is very important since, as you explain, the result can be leaks in the boiler itself.
Unfortunately the good news of a correct diagnosis can lead to the bad news of a costly repair - the need for a replacement of the steam boiler.
We're always smarter in hindsight - and now I also see that your observation that lower radiators got hot but upper level radiators all did not, could have pointed to a steam pressure problem. Too often an amateur "fixes" the problem by trying to set up the steam pressure at the control switch - not the right approach.
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RADIATORS
BANGING HEATING PIPES RADIATORS
BASEBOARD, CONVECTOR, RADIATOR TYPES
COLD HOT WATER BASEBOARD / RADIATOR
COLD STEAM HEAT RADIATORS
LEAKS at BASEBOARD, CONVECTOR, RADIATOR
RADIATOR or CONVECTOR COVERS
RADIATOR or CONVECTOR INSULATION
RADIATOR STEAM VENTS
RADIATOR STEAM VENTS, AUTOMATIC
Install Steam Vents to Control Heat
RADIATOR VALVES & HEAT CONTROLS
Radiator Control Valves & Vents
Manual Radiator Valves
Hot Water vs Steam Radiator Valves
Adjust Level of Heat
Automatic Radiator Valves
STEAM TRAPS
UNEVEN HEAT DIAGNOSIS
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