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Pre-Cleanup moldy basement framing Advice for Using Bleach to Disinfect Building Surfaces or to Clean Moldy Surfaces

Bleach to kill mold? Bleach to remove stains? Bleach to disinfect surfaces or water?

This article explains the usual bleach solution used to clean or disinfect building surfaces and we describe how to use bleach to clean a moldy building surface. We explain when the standard bleach solution cleaning method is useful as well as when it's probably a big mistake.

Find here: advice on How to Use Bleach When Cleaning Moldy Building Surfaces. Mold Cleaning Mistakes to Avoid when cleaning Mold on Building Framing Lumber or Plywood Sheathing. Links to explanations of how to use bleach to disinfect water or a well.

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Guide for Using Bleach to Clean a Building Surface

Household cleaners (C) Daniel FriedmanIf you want to use bleach as a cleaning agent instead of other cleaners (household cleaners, or plain soap and water would work just fine for cleaning a moldy surface) here are some mold cleanup suggestions for homeowners from the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation CMHC.

Watch out: Keep in mind that bleach is a powerful oxidant that is not only dangerous on skin or in eyes, but it will also bleach (whiten) the surface where you're using it, or your clothes or whatever is around if you're sloppy.

Using Bleach to clean, to disinfect, or to kill mold in buildings - Warning!

Moldy paneling and flooring (C) Daniel FriedmanBleaching mold in an effort to kill it, while psychologically understandable, is n ot the proper nor recommended approach to getting rid of a mold problem.

Here we explain why bleach may be satisfying, maybe even useful for cosmetic reasons, but it's not the right approach to mold remediation.

Our photo at page top shows a moldy home after flooding in Jasper Texas. The drywall and other soft materials needed to be removed, not "sprayed with bleach". But after all demolition and loose debris cleaning, use of a biocide as a final wash is common in this circumstance.

Our photo at left shows an area for further mold investigation in a basement: the cavity side of paneling in an area that has been damp or wet.

[Click to enlarge any image]

What about a small patch of mold on a bathroom wall or ceiling? This article explains the use of bleach on moldy surfaces.

Reasons Why Bleaching Mold is a Mistaken Approach to Mold Cleanup

Bleach, diluted bleach, or bleach sprays used in cleaning may be appealing but in normal circumstances they are unnecessary,

potentially dangerous (if you get bleach in your eyes), and the use of bleach tends to lead to improper and inadequate cleaning

Iif you substitute "spraying bleach" for actually cleaning

or removing the mold your cleanup will not be successful.

Our photo (left) shows hard surfaced wall paneling and floor tiles that might be cleaned of light mold contamination using a household cleaner or a dilute bleach solution (described below). But before cleaning mold off of this wall we'd want to know about the wall cavity - if there have been leaks into the wall cavity itself, cleaning the surface alone is probably futile.

The object of mold removal is to clean the surface, to remove loose moldy material, not to try to sterilize the surface. 

The object of mold remediation is to clean, or remove, the majority of the mold particles (spores, conidiophores, hyphae, mycelia) from the target surface.

Certain mold-contaminated materials that cannot be cleaned (drywall, carpeting, curtains) should be discarded. Clothing and bedding linens or towels can be washed or dry-cleaned.

The operative word to fix in mind is to "clean" or "remove" the problem mold. "Killing" the mold is not the object -

first of all because our lab work shows that you're unlikely to kill all of the mold on a surface using bleach, unless you use it at a concentration and duration which is so strong that you're likely to completely destroy the "bleached" material, and second of all because even if you could "kill" every mold spore, you are at risk of leaving toxic or allergenic particles in place - they may be dead but still toxic.

See MOLD KILLING GUIDE for details.

"Mold removal" by surface scrubbing only works if you're cleaning a relatively hard, non-porous surface 

such as finished wood, painted metal, or plastic. Soft materials like Sheetrock™ or drywall which have become moldy generally should be removed, the exposed surfaces cleaned, and then new drywall can be installed (after you've also corrected the reason for the mold growth in the first place).

Just spraying or painting-over mold with anything

if spraying of fungicides or sealants is to be used in place of actual cleaning or removal of mold is an improper and inadequate practice which risks leaving a reservoir of toxic or allergenic particles in the building.

Using Bleach as a Water Disinfectant or to Shock a Well

How Bleach Works: Information about disinfectants & contamination cleanup procedures

How does bleach remove stains?

Household bleach is a mixture of sodium hypochlorite (0.5%) and mostly water (99.5%).

It's the sodium hypochlorite that's the active ingredient in bleach. Bleach is an oxidizing and a bleaching agent and a disinfectant. - Grant and Hackh's Chemical Dictionary, 5th ed.

The chemical formula for sodium hypochlorite is NaClO - or sodium (Na or salt), Chlorine (Cl) and Oxygen (O). In NaClO the chlorie atoms are very reactive, snagging electrons from other nearby molecules.

Nearby hydrocarbons that comprise organic materials (mold) and stains (maybe dirt or food) give up electrons to the chlorine while the oxygen and chloride molecules in the bleach stick to the carbons.

Those modified carbon molecules are changed by their new passenge molecules to become highly soluble in water. Water, then, can flush those molecules away - removing the stains. Because the stain particles, now water soluble and now washed away, are physically removed from their original spot, the stain material is actually "gone" - in a favorable reaction.

How does bleach disinfect surfaces, materials, or water?

Bleach is also a really good oxidizer. Its easily-freed oxygen molecule oxidizes molecules that comprise bacteria, fungal spores (or "mold"), other organic materials (fungal hyphae or structures), and even viruses, or cells within those organisms, thus "killing" them.

The effectiveness of bleaching anything depends on the concentration of bleach and its exposure time. Higher concentrations and longer exposure increase the "kill rate" of bleach when attacking organisms.

Disinfecting water or surfaces does not necessarily physically "remove" the harmful pathogens being treated. Rather, it "kills" them.

Unlike "stain removal using bleach", to disinfect a material or surface you should first clean the surface to remove as much debris and dirt as you can.

To use bleach to disinfect dishes

For example, to disinfect dishes (not something that is normally necessary) you would first was them, then use two teaspoons of household bleach in one gallon of clean water to make a disinfecting soak. Immerse your dishes for two minutes or longer in this solutin, then drain the dishes and let them dry in the air. Don't wipe the "disinfected" dishes with your dishcloth as you'll probably be re-infecting them.

To use bleach to kill germs on surfaces

To disinfect a surface like the surface in your microbiology laboratory, use a mixture of household bleach and clean water in a ratio of 1:9, that is 1 part bleach to 9 parts water. This disinfecting solution remains usable for about 24 hours.

On very dirty surfaces such as the basement floor after you've cleaned up a sewage spill and washed the floor with detergents and rinsed it clean, you'd need a 20% solution of bleach - 1 part bleach to 4 parts clean water.

That's because the high level of organics tend to neutralize the bleach by rapidly absorbing its chlorine and oxygen.

Watch out: from both field and lab experience I [DF] emphasize that bleach on very soiled, very infected, or very moldy building surfaces is not likely to kill every single organism - you would have to leave such highly-concentrated bleach on a building surface or material for so long to kill 100% of the organisms on the surface that you're likely to also oxidize and destroy the material itself.

Watch out also: do not use a stronger concentration of bleach than necessary.

Aside from the safety hazards and the risks of damaging the bleached material I already cited, excessive bleach concentration (with less water) can actually make the solution less effective at disinfecting or at removing stains. Household bleach from the bottle should always be diluted with water before using ti.

Anyone (including myself) has ever experimented with over-dosing bleach on a pair of jeans only to find out that the newly-bleached jeans fell apart will know what I mean.

Bleach Concentrations to Use When Disinfecting or Sanitizing

Uses of Bleach Discussed at InspectApedia

 




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On 2020-03-26 - by (mod) - spraying with bleach is generally not necessary

Black mold spots on wall stud (C) InspectApedia.com JoeJoe

spraying with bleach is generally not necessary and not, in all respects, effective in dealing with mold: you may leave toxic particles around even if they're "dead" - see details

at MOLD CLEANUP, BLEACH - not an adequate mold remediation approach b

The article above gives a reasonable procedure:

Physically clean visibly-moldy surfaces, let things dry out, and fix the leak or water or moisture source.

If you want extra peace of mind, though it's not technically necessary, you can spray the exposed, cleaned moldy wood with a fungicidal sealant as we discuss in this article series. Live links are given above at the more-reading section.

On 2020-03-25 by Joe

How do I remove the surface mold? Should I stub it? I’ve already sprayed it with bleach water mix but it doesn’t seem to be going away.

My basement is high humidity around 50% I’ve recently put on a dehumidifier that’s we’re all this started.

On 2020-03-25 by (mod) - Are those spots harmful mold at all?

Try a closer sharper image;

That looks to me like black spots remaining in mold wood that sported black mold growth possibly even before milling, else after some cleaning was done.

In any case, the best you can do is remove the surface mold, assure that the wood and other materials are dry and that there are no leaks or trapped moisture or humidity problems.

If you want extra peace of mind, though it's not technically necessary, you can spray the exposed, cleaned moldy wood with a fungicidal sealant as we discuss in this article series.

See COSMETIC MOLD, RECOGNIZE

On 2020-03-25 by Joe

Black mold spots on wall stud (C) InspectApedia.com JoeI’m pretty sure it’s mold, there’s a bunch of black spots across the wood in a few spots in my basement. If you want I can send the picture another way so it could come out clear.

The wood has not been wet since killing and I can’t seem to find any other mold on any other surface beside the wood on the ceiling.

On 2020-03-25 - by (mod) - mold on wall studs in my finished basement

Joe

On enlargement the photo is a little blurry so I'm not sure what those dark spots are. Are you sure it's mold?

Has that wood been wet since milling or since construction?

Is there mold growth on any other surfaces such as drywall, cavity side of wall sheathing, insulation facings, drywall?

On 2020-03-24 by Joe - I sprayed our moldy wood with bleach but it's not doing much

I have mold in my unfinished basement, My house is 4 years old so the mold growth is minimal but still in a few spots on the wood on the ceiling of my basement.

I sprayed it with bleach and water about 3 days ago and it doesn’t seem like it’s doing much. Should I scrub it too?

This Q&A were posted originally

at MOLD CLEANUP - WOOD FRAMING & PLYWOOD

Question: I heard that using bleach straight will encapsulate the bacteria or virus

Dear friends, first of all I love your web site. It must have been a real labor of love to build. Good job. I was told a while back that one must dilute household bleach for it to disinfect a surface. I heard that by using it straight it will encapsulate the bacteria/virus’ you are trying to clean. Would you know if this is true? Thank you very much for your time. B.S., Sparrow Bush NY

Reply: Nonsense. There are different reasons for diluting bleach but not the one you offer.

But indeed some encapsulated pathogens such as Staphylococcus aureus are resistant to bleach disinfectants, diluted or in higher concentrations.

Bleach (hypochlorite) has been used as an effective disinfectant for more than 100 years [3] and interestingly some "environmentally safe" and "home remedies" used as alternatives are not government controlled and may be significantly less effective.

(Ammonia, borax, baking soda, vinegar and one commercial antimicrobial spray product were evaluated.) [4].

We can find absolutely no basis for the claim that undiluted household bleach "encapsulates" and thus fails to treat bacteria or viral contaminants when used "full strength" as a cleaner, but there is a different reason that household bleach (laundry bleach) is diluted before use: out of the bottle, household bleach is strong enough to damage many surfaces and materials (as well as your eyes and skin) and used full strength it is also a bit difficult to rinse clean.

That's the reason that for typical household cleaning uses bleach is diluted 1 part bleach to 4 parts water.

The term "encapsulation of bacteria" is, however, a real one and has been discussed among microbiologists in explaining why it is difficult to treat these pathogens in certain circumstances - but not household cleaning. [1] That may be where some confusion has arisen.

Bleach as an oxidizing biocide, at normal household cleaning dilutions, is common, widely used, safe, and effective against many pathogens.

The oxidizing biocide, ClO2, is a common disinfectant. It is safe (McDonnel and Russell 1999) and effective against a broad spectrum of bacteria, spores and viruses over a wide pH range from 2 to 8 (Huang et al. 1997; Young and Setlow 2003; Sy et al. 2005; Simonet and Gantzer 2006).

The disinfection ability of ClO2 has also been reported for B. anthrax cells and spores (Canter et al. 2005), the severe acute respiratory syndrome-associated coronavirus (Wang et al. 2005) and the influenza A virus (H1N1) (Ogata and Shibata 2005).

ClO2 is a very reactive free radical molecule.

Owing to its unique one-electron transfer reaction mechanism, it is also a highly selective oxidant (Gordon and Rosenblatt 2005). It attacks electron-rich centres in organic molecules (Gordon and Rosenblatt 2005) and kills micro-organisms through oxidizing their cell membranes (Berg et al. 1986) and denaturing their proteins (Ogata 2007).

It breaks the inner membrane of spores preventing their proper germination (Young and Setlow 2003) and reacts with the viral envelope to cause irreparable damage and inactivation (Ogata and Shibata 2005).

ClO2 solution can be applied or sprayed directly onto the target surface for action. The disinfection ability, however, diminishes with time in terms of minutes as the ClO2 vaporizes.

In enabling a longer lasting disinfection performance, ClO2 gas was generated from sodium chlorite salts stored in a polymer matrix through a reaction with an acid (Callerame 1989; Wellinghoff 1997), and the acid was either stored with the salt or formed as byproduct of polymer decomposition.

This process is inevitably slow as the generation of ClO2 gas depends on the release or production of acid and its subsequent reaction with sodium chlorite. [2]

It is the case, however, that some pathogens such as Staphylococcus aureusare are indeed resistant to simple bleach as a disinfectant. Diluting or not-diluting the bleach is not pertinent to that problem nor its solution.

Staphylococcus aureus was the least susceptible to ClO2 among the tested vegetative species. Staphylococcus aureus also exhibited similar low susceptibility to a hypochlorite (i.e. bleach) solution (data not shown).

This may be related to the presence of carotenoid pigments in Staph. aureus that are antioxidative and provide the bacteria with some degree of protection from oxidizing biocides. [2]


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