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Indirect fired hot water heater schematicGuide to Indirect-Fired Hot Water Heaters
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  • Description of Indirect-Fired or "remote" Hot Water Heaters - water tanks heated by a connection to a heating boiler or other heat source.
  • How to obtain more hot water quantity, pressure, flow, at less cost
  • Options for replacement of tankless coils as domestic hot water source
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Here we discuss indirect-fired hot water heaters, explaining the characteristics & advantages of this method for making domestic hot water where a gas or oil fired heating boiler is installed. Thanks to Carson Dunlop, a Toronto Home Inspection Firm and Home Inspection Educator, for permission to use sketches shown in this article.

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Below we describe some alternative ways to make hot water, either to replace or to supplement an existing hot water supply system. After knowing what the hot water problem really is, there are steps we can take to get more hot water or to increase hot water pressure.

Installing an indirect-fired water heater

Indirect fired hot water heater schematic

As we explain at TANKLESS COILS, a conventional tankless coil system imbeds a finned copper tube coil inside of the hot heating boiler water, running domestic cold water through the tankless coil where physically separated boiler water heats the coil and thus heats water passing through the coil.

An indirect-fired water heater also uses a finned-copper tube coil in a different approach to providing more domestic hot water.

In our photo at left, the white Super Stor™ tank is an indirect-fired water heater. Water in this tank is heated by a plumbing loop circulating hot boiler water through a heating coil in the bottom of the Super Stor™ water heater tank.

Plumbing Connections for an Indirect Fired Water Heater

Indirect fired water heater plumbing hookup (C) Daniel Friedman

Where an indirect-fired water heater is installed, the coil is inserted not in the heating boiler, but rather in the bottom of a hot water tank. You can see this design in our photo at left (the blue tank is the indirect fired water heater) and also in our sketch at page top, provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop.

Water from the heating boiler (not domestic cold water) is circulated from the boiler, through the coil, and back to the heating boiler. The coil, in turn, heats water stored in the separate hot water tank.

This installation is a bit fancy: the blue indirect fired water heater is heated by the gray Weil McLain™ oil fired heating boiler. The blue water heater tank is in turn being used in this case to provide a big reservoir of hot water to a water-to-air heating coil installed in the light gray/tan air handler at far left in the photo. This home uses that air handler for both central air conditioning and also for heat. Other pipes connected to the Weil McLain boiler may indicate that that boiler also provides hot water heat to some building areas. (Click on the photo for details).

But the principle is the same. Hot water from the blue indirect-fired water heater tank could have just as well been used to provide domestic hot water for washing and bathing as well as for heating the water-to-air heating system, as well as serving both purposes.

Controls on Indirect Fired Water Heaters

Extrol water heater, indirect fired (C) Daniel FriedmanAn indirect fired water heater such as the Super Stor™ or Extrol™ water heater (shown at left) unit will include a temperature control that is usually mounted on the water tank itself.

When the hot water temperature drops below the control set point, the control will turn on a circulator pump that will cycle hot boiler water through the heating coil inside of the Super Stor™ tank.

The indirect-fired water heater does not itself turn on the heating boiler. Rather, when temperatures inside the separate heating boiler drop below a low limit (or hot water maintenance level) set on the heating boiler's own control, that system will turn on its burner to re-heat the boiler water directly.

Efficiency of Indirect Fired Water Heaters

An indirect-fired water heater is a more efficient way to use a home heating boiler to make domestic hot water. Why? Because the heating boiler will run less often, and when it does run, it will have a longer "on" cycle (as it has to heat up the tank of hot water). Both of these conditions are a more efficient way to burn home heating oil than using a tankless coil.

In sum, during the heating season, when a heating boiler is likely to be "hot" most of the time anyway because it is heating the home, a tankless coil installed on a heating boiler is a reasonable way to obtain some domestic hot water from the system, though in most installations a tankless coil will not be able to produce as much hot water for as long a time period as what we can obtain from a separate water heater.

But an indirect-fired water heater always makes more efficient use of the home heating boiler, year round. And since the consumer can decide how big a hot water tank she wants, 50 or even 100 gallons of hot water can be kept in reserve. More than we can normally obtain from a conventional domestic tankless coil on a heating boiler.

Readers should also read Range Boiler Water Heaters where we discuss an older type of indirect-fired water heating system installed at many older homes.

The characteristics of various water heaters such as life expectancy, cost, safety, and capacity are discussed at WATER HEATER PROPERTIES

Ways to improve hot water quantity, pressure, and flow are discussed beginning at HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS and continuing at HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT.

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AGE of WATER HEATERS
ALTERNATIVE HOT WATER SOURCES
  Electric Shower Heaters
  High Efficiency Water Heaters
  Indirect-fired Water Heaters
  Instantaneous Water Heaters
  Multiple water heaters in parallel
  Multiple water heaters in series
  Range Boiler Water Heaters
  Side Arm Coil Water Heaters
  Solar Water Heaters
  Tankless Coil for Hot Water
  Tankless Water Heaters
ANODES & DIP TUBES on WATER HEATERS
ANTI SCALD VALVES
APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
CARBON MONOXIDE/DIOXIDE
CHIMNEY INSPECTION DIAGNOSIS REPAIR
CLOGGED PIPING & Hot Water Flow
ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS
GAS FIRED WATER HEATERS
HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS
HOT WATER DELIVERY SPEED UP
HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
INDIRECT FIRED WATER HEATERS
NO HEAT - NO HOT WATER: HEATER DIAGNOSIS
ODORS IN WATER
OIL FIRED WATER HEATERS
MIXING VALVES
PLASTIC HEATER VENT
RANGE BOILERS
RELIEF VALVES - TP Valves on Boilers
Relief Valves - Water Heaters
SAFETY DURING HEATING INSPECTION
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SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT
SOLAR HOT WATER HEATERS
SOOT on OIL FIRED HEATING EQUIPMENT
SPILL SWITCHES - Flue Gas Detection
TANKLESS COILS
Temperature Pressure Relief Valves - Water Heaters
Water Heater Noises
WATER HEATER PROPERTIES
  Electric, Gas, Oil Water Heater Efficiency
  Water Heater Life Expectancy Comparisons
  Water Heater Operating Cost Comparisons
  Water Heater Purchase & Maintenance Costs
  Water Heater Water Quantity Comparisons
  Water Heater Recovery Speed Comparisons
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Water Heater Scale - De-Liming Procedures
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