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AGE of WATER HEATERS
AIRBOUND HEAT SYSTEM REPAIRS
ALTERNATIVE HOT WATER SOURCES
ANODES & DIP TUBES on WATER HEATERS
ANTIFREEZE for BOILERS
ANTI SCALD VALVES
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AQUASTAT CONTROL Functions

BACKDRAFTING HEATING EQUIPMENT
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BACKUP HEAT for HEAT PUMPS
BLEVE EXPLOSIONS
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CARBON MONOXIDE - CO
CHECK VALVES, WATER SUPPLY
CHEMICAL CONTAMINANTS in WATER
CHIMNEY INSPECTION DIAGNOSIS REPAIR
CLOGGED DRAIN DIAGNOSIS & REPAIR
CLOGGED SUPPLY PIPING
CROSS CONNECTIONS, PLUMBING

DEBRIS in WATER SUPPLY, Water Heater
DRAIN a WATER HEATER TANK

ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS

FLOODED HEATING EQUIPMENT REPAIR
FLOODED WATER HEATER REPAIR
FREEZE-PROOF A BUILDING
FROST HEAVES, FOUNDATION, SLAB

GALVANIC SCALE & METAL CORROSION
GAS BURNER Flame & Noise Defects
GAS FIRED WATER HEATERS
GAS PIPING, VALVES, CONTROLS

HEAT TAPES, Heat, Insulation prevent Freeze-Up
HEATING COST FUEL & BTU Cost Table
HEATING COST SAVINGS METHODS
HEATING SYSTEMS

HOT WATER SUPPLY
HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS
HOT WATER DELIVERY SPEED UP
HOT WATER EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT
HOT WATER PRESSURE EXPANSION RATE
HOT WATER PRESSURE LOSS
HOT WATER PROBLEM DIAGNOSIS
HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
HYDROGEN SULFIDE GAS

INDIRECT FIRED WATER HEATERS

MANUALS & PARTS GUIDES - HVAC
MIXING / ANTI-SCALD VALVES

NO HEAT - NO HOT WATER: HEATER DIAGNOSIS
NOISE / SOUND DIAGNOSIS & CURE
NOISE CONTROL for HEATING SYSTEMS
NOISE, PLUMBING CHECKLIST
NOISE, WATER HEATER

ODORS GASES SMELLS, DIAGNOSIS & CURE
ODORS IN WATER

PIPING IN buildings, Clogs Leaks Types
PLASTIC HEATER VENT
PLUMBING FIXTURES, KITCHEN, BATH
PLUMBING VENT DEFECTS & NOISES
PUMPS, CIRCULATOR
PUMPS, HEAT PUMPS
PUMPS, OIL BURNER
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PUMPS, SEPTIC PUMPS
PUMPS, SEWAGE EJECTOR / GRINDER PUMPS
PUMPS, SUMP PUMPS
PUMPS, WATER PUMPS
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RANGE BOILERS
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SOOT on OIL FIRED HEATING EQUIPMENT
SPILL SWITCHES - Flue Gas Detection

TANKLESS COILS
TANKLESS WATER HEATERS
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WATER HEATERS
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WATER HEATER SCALE - De-Liming Procedure
WATER HEATER SCALE PREVENTION
WATER HEATER SAFETY
WATER HEATERS for HOME HEATING USE?
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WATER PIPES, Clogs Leaks Types
WATER PRESSURE & FLOW MEASUREMENT
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WATER PRESSURE REDUCER / REGULATOR
WATER PRESSURE PUMP REPAIR GUIDE
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  • Tankless Water Heater Problems & Defects: Troubleshooting Tips
    • Tankless Water Heater Maintenance Costs
    • Fuel Supply for Tankless Water Heaters
    • Tankless Water Heater Scale Build-up Will Reduce Hot Water Flow
    • Tankless Water Heater Dirty Filter Will Reduce Hot Water Flow
    • Tankless Water Heater Hot Water Supply May Not be Constant
    • Tankless Water Heater Cold Water Sandwich Effect Explained
    • Tankless Water Heater Maximum Hot Water Flow Rate
  • TANKLESS COILS - separate article
  • TANKLESS WATER HEATERS - separate article
    • ELECTRIC SHOWER HEATERS - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER CAPACITIES - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER CONVERT TO? - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER INSTALLATION - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS, COSTS - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER LIFE & USES - separate article
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER REPAIR GUIDE
    • TANKLESS WATER HEATER SIZE REQUIREMENTS - separate article
  • Questions & answers about problems that occur in tankless water heaters, demand water heaters, & point of use water heaters: troubleshooting, & repair.
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  • ANODES & DIP TUBES on WATER HEATERS
  • ANTI SCALD VALVES / MIXING VALVES
  • BLEVE EXPLOSIONS
  • DRAIN a WATER HEATER TANK
  • ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS
  • FLOODED WATER HEATER REPAIR
  • GAS FIRED WATER HEATERS & GAS HEATERS, HIGH EFFICIENCY
  • HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS - home
  • HOT WATER DELIVERY SPEED UP
  • HOT WATER EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT
  • HOT WATER PRESSURE EXPANSION RATE
  • HOT WATER PRESSURE LOSS
  • HOT WATER PROBLEM DIAGNOSIS
  • HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
  • HYDROGEN SULFIDE GAS
  • INDIRECT FIRED WATER HEATERS
  • NOISE, WATER HEATER
  • ODORS IN WATER
  • OIL FIRED WATER HEATERS
  • RANGE BOILERS
  • RELIEF VALVE LEAKS
  • RELIEF VALVES - Water Heaters
  • SCALE REMOVAL, WATER HEATERS & SCALE PREVENTION
  • SOLAR HOT WATER HEATERS
  • TANKLESS COILS
  • TANKLESS WATER HEATERS
  • THERMOSTATS, WATER HEATER
  • TIMERS for ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS
  • WATER HEATER AIR INLET
  • WATER HEATER DEBRIS FLUSH
  • WATER HEATER EFFICIENCY
  • WATER HEATER FLUSH PROCEDURE
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Tankless Water Heater Repair Advice: this article explains concerns, problems, & special characteristics of tankless water heaters, also called instant water heaters or "on demand" water heaters. Readers should also see ALTERNATIVE HOT WATER SOURCES to distinguish among these types of hot water producing systems. Portions of this article were provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop - that text has been edited and may not entirely reflect CD's views. Page top sketch of a point of use tankless water heater courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.

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Tankless Water Heater Problems & Defects

Tankless Water Heater Maintenance Costs

Conventional water heaters are relatively inexpensive due to their simplicity while tankless water heaters are more expensive to purchase and install. In 2009 in Toronto, Ontario a high capacity instantaneous water heater installation could cost $4000. CDN. Their complexity also means that maintenance and repairs can be more expensive. Dedicated isolating valves help simplify draining and other regular maintenance.

Fuel Supply for Tankless Water Heaters

The water heater must have a continuous fuel supply. Malfunctioning burners, sensors or controls will cause poor operation or may result in the system not working at all, meaning no hot water.

Tankless Water Heater Scale Build-up Will Reduce Hot Water Flow

The small diameter of the heat exchangers means that these units are susceptible to clogging with scale, especially in areas with hard water. In hard water areas, annual de-scaling is recommended.

As with tank-type water heaters, some manufacturers recommend regular flushing - a step that removes sediment and debris from the heater, not scale.

Tankless Water Heater Dirty Filter Will Reduce Hot Water Flow

If the heater is equipped with a water filter, usually an in-line screen that can be removed, inspected, and cleaned. The demand water heater filter screen should be checked and cleaned monthly, or performance will suffer.

Tankless Water Heater Hot Water Supply May Not be Constant

Consumer Reports reports that some tankless water heaters do not heat continuously and constantly. If a particular model has this problem users will find that in the shower the water runs in cold bursts from time to time.

Watch out: In our own tankless water heater installation experience in the U.S. & Mexico [TANKLESS WATER HEATER INSTALLATION] we have confirmed that there can be hot water constancy & flow regulation problems, particularly in low-pressure tankless water heater installations. Depending on exactly how hot and cold water pipes are routed to the tankless water heater and to various plumbing fixtures in a building, low pressure tankless water heater units are sensitive to reductions in water flow rate when additional plumbing fixtures are in operation in the same building.

The result can be complete cessation of hot water (the heater turns off on a too-low-flow-rate condition) or difficulty balancing the proper hot water temperature by attempts to mix cold water in at the shower or sink where hot water is in use.

We suspect that for this reason, after about 2004, Bosch stopped selling low pressure tankless water heaters in the U.S. However as recently as in 2012 these units continue to be sold and installed in other countries including Mexico where some homes depend on low water pressure delivered from a (not very high) rooftop water storage tank.

These low water pressure problems can be addressed by

  1. Careful use of cold water mix-in at the plumbing fixtures in use
  2. Setting down the hot water temperature at the tankless water heater and reducing the mix-in of cold water at the plumbing fixture
  3. Installation of a water pressure boosting pump and pressure tank
  4. Installing a dedicated cold water input line from the water storage tank to the tankless water heater cold-input fitting
  5. Replacing the low-pressure tankless water heater with a high pressure unit combined with installation of a water pressure boosting pump and tank system - the most expensive solution to these complaints.

Tankless Water Heater Cold Water Sandwich Effect Explained

Depending on how you use your demand hot water heater, an unpleasant jolt of cold water often occurs when water is turned on and off fairly quickly. This can happen at a kitchen sink when rinsing dishes or at the bathroom basin while washing and shaving, for example.

Rinnai™, a maker of tankless water heaters explains the cold water sandwich effect as follows:

"The term “cold water sandwich effect” is a term that is used to describe the introduction of cold water into the hot water supply line during frequent on/off operation of an instantaneous water heater. The cold water sandwich effect, when present, appears as a momentary drop in hot water temperature as it is discharged from a hot water supply outlet (i.e. shower, tub, or faucet). This phenomenon is present in the operation of all instantaneous, tankless style, water heaters, but is minimized with the high tech design of Rinnai water heaters.

The technology built into the Rinnai water heaters is designed to minimize the cold water sandwich effect. Rinnai water heaters are microprocessor controlled and when water flow through them ceases, they remain in a “ready to fire state” for approximately 1 minute. If water flow through a Rinnai water heater begins within the first minute following water flow stoppage, the water heater will fire back up within 1 to 2 seconds.

This minimizes the cold water sandwich effect that would otherwise be experienced with a low tech tankless water heater. It should be noted that the cold water sandwich effect cannot be removed completely from tankless style water heaters. The safety standards developed to insure the safe operation of water heaters require a delay in the ignition sequence of all gas water heaters.

While the cold water sandwich effect cannot be completely eliminated from standard plumbing systems, it can be eliminated from plumbing systems that have a supply and return hot water circulating system. Rinnai has developed 2 methods to eliminate the cold water sandwich effect in residential hot water circulating systems.

The first (and preferred) method to remove the cold water sandwich from circulating systems utilizes a small electric tank water heater (powered up) that is used with a dual purpose. The small water heater acts as a mixing tank to eliminate the cold water sandwich effect from the Rinnai water heater and it uses its electric heating element to offset the heat losses from the hot water circulating system.

The second method to remove the cold water sandwich from circulating systems utilizes a small 2 to 6 gallon storage tank installed on the hot water outlet of the Rinnai water heater. This tank acts as a mixing tank to blend the cold water sandwich with hot water and eliminating its effect at fixtures."

Tankless Water Heater Maximum Hot Water Flow Rate & incoming water temperature

The hot water flow rate is not only dependent on the heating capacity of the water heater and the output water temperature, but also on the inlet water temperature.

Homes in northern climates draw water from colder water supplies, and since it takes longer to heat up colder water, tankless water heaters installed in these homes will have lower hot water flow rates. The design temperatures for many water heaters is 60 deg. F. but in northern climates (Toronto, Ontario, or Two Harbors MN), the incoming water temperature may be 50 deg.F. or even as low as 40 deg.F.


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